Lady, it's a vagina, NOT A CLOWN CAR!

[giza]

Mom delivers 16th child, thinking of more

Here's my favorite quote from the article:

Jim Bob Duggar, 40, said he and Michelle, 39, want more children.

"We both just love children and we consider each a blessing from the Lord. I have asked Michelle if she wants more and she said yes, if the Lord wants to give us some she will accept them," he said in a telephone interview.

My Free Thought Organ (aka my BRAIN) is really having a hard time wrapping my head around this. Do these people not KNOW how sex WORKS? A man and a woman have sex, sometimes pregnancies result. This is not rocket science.

If this is the kind of sound reasoning and logical skills that being religious gives people, then I think I'll stay out of church, thanks.

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[camstone.livejournal.com]

This is not rocket science.

It's not!?!?!
Damn... *snaps fingers*
Overqualified again!!!

[malamute.livejournal.com]

They also have no debt, a paid-off house, and he's a former business owner who sold his business and helps around the house from what I understand. The only slight bonus of having that many kids is that you can make the older ones take care of the younger ones and help run the household.

Still... bleh. The whole thing leaves a gross taste in my muzzle :P

Reminds me of a scene from Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life"

[kinkyturtle.livejournal.com]

MRS. BLACKITT: Why do they have so many children?
MR. BLACKITT: Because every time they have sexual intercourse, they have to have a baby.
MRS. BLACKITT: But it's the same with us, Harry.
MR. BLACKITT: What d'you mean?
MRS. BLACKITT: Well I mean we've got two children and we've had sexual intercourse twice.

[kinkyturtle.livejournal.com]

Oh, and I have to admit that when I saw the new baby's name, Johannah Faith, and the father's name, Jim Bob... I just knew, before I got to the "blessing from the Lord" quote, that these people were religious nuts.

Poster Parents for Sterilization?

[ex-purpleca.livejournal.com]

I think someone needs a neuterin'.

Their children include two sets of twins, and each child has a name beginning with the letter "J": Joshua, 17; John David, 15; Janna, 15; Jill, 14; Jessa, 12; Jinger, 11; Joseph, 10; Josiah, 9; Joy-Anna, 8; Jeremiah, 6; Jedidiah, 6; Jason, 5; James, 4; Justin, 2; and Jackson Levi, 1.

Yeah. I'll get my clippers.

Re: Poster Parents for Sterilization?

[giza.livejournal.com]

Forget clippers.

Use a mallet. It's the only way to be sure.

[silverscalenaga.livejournal.com]

The baby's father, Jim Bob Duggar, a former state representative yuck :X

[netcrimes.livejournal.com]

No, no. God gives them the kids. Of course.

Har!

She must be able to play tunes out her you-know-what now.

[cerisewolf.livejournal.com]

Religion ensnares the young by encouraging large families.

[derechodragon.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the reality check.

[liontaris.livejournal.com]

Eventually the financial resources will run out and they won't be able to support them. "Yes, Sara, you can have half a bouillion cube for supper tonight. That's all we can give you today."

[giza.livejournal.com]

I'm curious about that, actually. If they can find a way to support them all, I'll be really impressed.

I should Google on them in 5 years and see what I find. :-)

[liontaris.livejournal.com]

"Family of 22 evicted for noise violations"

[giza.livejournal.com]

> a) it's their choice,

That's cool, even though I'm not thrilled with that.

> b) it's what they want,

That's cool, even though I'm not thrilled with that.

> and c) it doesn't sound they're neglecting any of their children

Uh, what? Where was neglect brought up? What does that have at all to do with anything in the article or what I posted here?

> And it's not that they don't know that sex=babies

Looking at the article, she referred to children as "a blessing from the lord". Nowhere does the article mention any other possible reasons, like fertility drugs, abnormalities in either spouse reproductive system, or lots of sex without contraceptives.

> As gays/bis/furs, we're all about lifestyle choice

Begging your pardon, but I did not choose to be gay.

[giza.livejournal.com]

How do large families make people more likely to become religious? I'm not sure I follow.

[cerisewolf.livejournal.com]

Think about it, the most innane traditions, like forbidding the use of birth controll, ensures that a family inside the mores will grow sizeable. Those children will be raised inside the same system. It's a form of spreading followers.

Actually...

[ionotter.livejournal.com]

If you have a look around at most aboriginal cultures around the world, you'll find that their societies deeply frown on having children so close to each other. I know that in Hawaii, if a woman got pregnant any less than one full year after the birth of her first, she got "plenny stink-eye" from the Kahuna, and bore the brunt of considerable gossip about her "loose and careless ways". The father got a stern talking-to from his father, and another visit from the Kahuna as well, telling him to tie a knot it in.

This attitude and cultural taboo remains firmly in place in Hawaii, even today.

The lady isn't "being fruitful", she's turned herself into a bloody factory farm chicken, pumping out embryos as fast as her ovaries can splork em' out.

And seeing as getting pregnant can be kinda difficult, with the need for multiple attempts, then either she's uber-fertile, or dad is a friggin' sex-machine without an off-switch.

Sheesh! Even cows are allowed to rest a bit between calves...

[foxcutter.livejournal.com]

Looking at the article, she referred to children as "a blessing from the lord". Nowhere does the article mention any other possible reasons, like fertility drugs, abnormalities in either spouse reproductive system, or lots of sex without contraceptives.

I'm going to have to call you on this one.

You know me, I'm not religious, in fact I'm very anti-religion. Still, just because someone says a child is a blessing from there god doesn't mean they don't understand the process. They obviously know what they are doing, and chose to see the hand of their god in the process. That's fine, that's part of their faith.

I also your comment itself interesting. Why do you feel that their believe in a god makes them ignorant? It's a hard question to answer truthfully, I know, I've done it... but you never know what introspection may turn up.

[elfasi.livejournal.com]

This is part of a larger culture which even I've been guilty of at one time or another, of thanking God for things which are very much down to the actions of us human beings. Say a competition or something, where they're waiting for the judges to decide and the contestants say 'Well it's in God's hands now'. No it's not! It's in the judge's hands! Or an emergency, maybe a fire, and you get rescued by a fireman, 'Thank God I survived!'. Don't thank God, thank the fireman! It's quite an entrenched way of speaking, I catch myself doing it now and try to stop. Having kids though, I guess this kind of phraseology doesn't bother me quite so much, because starting a new life, childbirth and all that, does feel a bit miraculous to me, even though we scientifically know how it all works.

[giza.livejournal.com]

> Still, just because someone says a child is a blessing from there god doesn't
> mean they don't understand the process. They obviously know what they are
> doing, and chose to see the hand of their god in the process. That's fine,
> that's part of their faith.

I can't wrap my brain around how/why people would think that, though. The act of intercourse and pregnancy is fairly well documented by the medical community. I can't understand why people consider this a mystery in day and age.

> I also your comment itself interesting. Why do you feel that their believe
> in a god makes them ignorant? It's a hard question to answer truthfully, I
> know, I've done it... but you never know what introspection may turn up.

Where to start...

I guess my issue with religion is that it ignores science and instead preaches beliefs that have little resemblance to reality. Right at the getgo in the bible, it talks about how the world was supposedly created in 6 days, offering no evidence to back it up.

Case in point, the people who are advocating creationism. I think it's bogus. They have no scientific evidence (http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2005/10/10/65535) to back up their claim. While scientists are making new discoveries about the expansion rate of the universe changing or whatever, these people keep repeating the same thing over and over (and over). And what has me worried is they actually want to teach this stuff in schools as "science". I'm worried about what long term effects (http://www.livejournal.com/users/giza/157550.html) this may have on progress in my country. (and to a lesser extent, the rest of the world)

I guess there's things like the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition too. People have actually killed in the name of religion.

Sorry to ramble, but does that answer your question? :-)

[foxcutter.livejournal.com]

Yes, yes it did.