Today's moron of the day
May. 23rd, 2006 09:33 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
gizaI just had an individual say "My comic is copyrighted, therefore you're not allowed to write about it on WikiFur!" BZZT. Wrong!
It just boggles my mind that people can be THAT clueless about the nature of patents, copyrights, and trademarks. Especially a person who took the time and trouble to "register their copyright with the copyright office".
For the record, here are the facts on those things (and more): http://www.eff.org/legal/CyberLaw_Course/
Oh, and Happy Yerfday to![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
denimwizard. (Most definitely NOT a moron!)
[Edit: Just to clarify, Fair Use isn't even part of the picture here. Fair use is involved when copy text from a copyrighted work for purposes of critique, satire, etc. In this case, no text has been copied from the comic in question.]
It just boggles my mind that people can be THAT clueless about the nature of patents, copyrights, and trademarks. Especially a person who took the time and trouble to "register their copyright with the copyright office".
For the record, here are the facts on those things (and more): http://www.eff.org/legal/CyberLaw_Course/
Oh, and Happy Yerfday to
denimwizard. (Most definitely NOT a moron!)[Edit: Just to clarify, Fair Use isn't even part of the picture here. Fair use is involved when copy text from a copyrighted work for purposes of critique, satire, etc. In this case, no text has been copied from the comic in question.]
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Seems like fair use to me
Date: 2006-05-23 01:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 01:41 pm (UTC)I mean, I understand your point about copyright law, (having a patent and dealing with governmental issues,) so there is no legal way from stopping you... but I guess I don't understand why you'd want to go against their wishes when they've made it known that it bothers them? Why not just let someone else do it?
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Date: 2006-05-23 01:41 pm (UTC)People amaze me these days...
Re: Seems like fair use to me
Date: 2006-05-23 01:42 pm (UTC)It's okay to copy facts and ideas (http://www.eff.org/legal/CyberLaw_Course/cyberlaw.006).
That's why I'm pissed off enough to have written this entry. They tried to invoke copyright law on something that wasn't a copyright issue at all.
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Date: 2006-05-23 01:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 01:47 pm (UTC)By demanding that we not write about the comic, I think that the individual is, in a sense, asking that we rewrite history. And I'm not going to do that. I think rewriting history just because someone says so is dishonest and unethical.
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Date: 2006-05-23 01:49 pm (UTC)In addition to my blurb further down about not wanting to "rewrite history", I have serious issues with people who try and stifle others from writing about them. (Also known as "censorship")
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Date: 2006-05-23 01:50 pm (UTC)What makes this person think that just because the comic is copyrighted to him, it can't be discussed in a public setting? What makes him think he has more of a right than professionals any other fields? If copyright did work that way, there would be no reviews, discussions, debates, or publicity (good or bad). =p Oh wait, you stated that this person was a moron. Never mind. XD
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Date: 2006-05-23 02:02 pm (UTC)(By the way, you need to edit your preferences so your edits are automatically marked as patrolled :-)
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Date: 2006-05-23 02:08 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:12 pm (UTC)> automatically marked as patrolled :-)
Oh, awesome! I just set that.
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Date: 2006-05-23 02:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:23 pm (UTC)I didn't mention their name explicitly, because the object of my post was to vent a little and to talk about the realities of copyright law in the US, not try and cause this person to become the target of any harassment.
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Date: 2006-05-23 02:25 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:39 pm (UTC)But back to your main point; Legally, I don't think there's an issue.
Personally, if someone doesn't want their comic included in such a listing, I'd listen to what they have to say and consider it seriously. It wouldn't necessarily stop me from entering "something" though. Still, I'd ask myself "Why don't they want it included?" And I'd also tend to lean toward the "show civility," end of the scale - which is included in the policy statement. My only guess is that the issue is one of "connection" and "perception."
Something I think that may become more of an issue down the road as the continuing debate on the value of the internet proceeds.
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Date: 2006-05-23 02:41 pm (UTC)But then again, Lance Rund totally flipped out on us some months ago when we mentioned about him buying that Goldenwolf painting for $10,000 at FC's Art Auction, so who knows!
Maybe we need to have annual WikiFur awards for things like, "worst legal arugment used", "lamest excuse for exclusion", etc.
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Date: 2006-05-23 02:41 pm (UTC)That icon looks like the work of Kenket... is it?
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Date: 2006-05-23 02:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-23 02:51 pm (UTC)And my name is a trademark. You may not speak my name, ever!
Rhetorical question, but one that must be put out there....
Date: 2006-05-23 03:00 pm (UTC)