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Date: 2006-07-06 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drzarron.livejournal.com
Its proof of the existance of Karma

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Date: 2006-07-07 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quentincoyote.livejournal.com
Ken Lay as in Enron Ken Lay? Ooh I missed this, when did this happen?

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Date: 2006-07-07 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
Yes.

It was all over CNN the other day. And Slashdot too.

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Date: 2006-07-07 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendingo.livejournal.com
The annoying part is that conviction might be erased because criminal convictions disappear at death.

I still say in his death, he got off easy.

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Date: 2006-07-07 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildw0lf.livejournal.com
I have to agree. There's no way he just dropped dead of a heart attack, it must have been self-inflicted.

Unfortunately, standing precedent is on his side. Because he was never actually sentenced and in the middle of appealing, he will not have to pay a dime.

I guess that actually goes for the criminal counts, civil counts, could go on for years, regardless of his death.

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Date: 2006-07-07 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
> Screen I have to agree. There's no way he just dropped dead of a heart
> attack,

Are you kidding? It was very likely the stress that killed him. Look at what he was facing:

0) Losing his company
1) Spending the rest of his life in jail
2) Losing his money via fines from the government
3) Being labeled a criminal, and working very hard to convince anyone and everyone that he was innocent

Oh yeah, and he was in his 60s.

Stress will do nasty things to your body if it continues long enough. I think it was just too much for his heart.

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Date: 2006-07-07 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/
I find it telling that one of the commentators on NPR last week said something to the effect that the best thing Ken Lay could do for the administration and all the other unindicted co-comspiritors as well as his relatives is to drop dead.

Since the appeal process is underway, the current precident is that his indictment and conviction will be expunged.

That's right. If you die while appealing a conviction, the current precident is to expunge the conviction and declare that you did not die as a criminal and actually were -never- guilty of the crime.

(Something to do with not being a 'fair trial' if you cannot appeal because you are dead.)

So, he dies and gets a 'get out of jail free' card.

No restitution from his estate is possible.

No money going to people suing for damages he caused them.

Whatever millions he had accurred are now safely protected and in the hands of his heirs.

Karma would have been him living -just- long enough to exhaust all appeals, and requests for depositions on other execs, and then dropping dead.

- Krin

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Date: 2006-07-07 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
My understanding is that his estate is still wide open for civil suits. And I suspect that they will have a devastating effect on it.

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