"The TRUTH about the PS3's backwards compatibility..."

[giza]

Yeah, this video pretty much says it all in terms of the PS3's backwards compatibility. Thanks omnibahumut.

Watch on YouTube

I am not amused.

Comments

[shockwave77598.livejournal.com]

Oh, blech!!! What braindead MBA thought that dropping the resolution in the NEW system was a good idea?

If I _was_ interested in the ps3 (which I'm not) I'm certainly not interested now! Pathetic in the extreme!

[girtygrin.livejournal.com]

And people wonder why I think the PS3 is an overpriced piece of shit.

[cyriljackal.livejournal.com]

Because you're right.

[drzarron.livejournal.com]

And lets not mention the processor overhead problems and the piss poor BluRay drives, which no one seems to give a rat's ass about in the first place and add nearly $200 to the price of each machine.

Sony REALLY dropped the ball.

[rikoshi.livejournal.com]

As an employee of the video game industry, I feel a bit vindicated that the stuff I've been predicting for the last year and a half has all come true, but on the other hand, I'm a bit upset that so many people seem surprised that Sony totally fucked up (and fucked their consumers).

[nikvulper.livejournal.com]

I for one, am not surprised. Then again, I've hated Sony for years.

[rebelsheart]

I appreciate the effort put through to make this exposition. I'm scared to wonder how much effort it took to get the PS3 and Ps2 synced up for most of that.

[skippyfox.livejournal.com]

Why are people complaining about this, but not about the facts that PC games always look and play better before they're dumped onto a console format, and that when a console game is ported to PC, the PC user has much more freedom to adjust graphics settings at his will?

Sony has a long standing record of attempting (and, more importantly, failing) to trap developers and consumers into using their own patented (and often shitty) products. Blu-Ray sure as hell won't be the last, and the Playstation wasn't the first. (Betamax, anyone?)

Throughout history open standards have always been the winning alternative. I won't deny that the PC Gaming industry has been pretty shitty lately compared to consoles, but I expect to see that change soon, especially since modern consoles are just locked PCs with limiting operating systems, and EVERYONE knows how to install a PC game and use a keyboard and mouse. :P

[giza.livejournal.com]

You forgot to mention the part dealing with hardware issues, upgrades, and driver problems, all of which come with PC gaming.

Many gamers do not have the time, skills, or interest to troubleshoot why the PC game that they spent $50 on bombs with some strange error that requires them to download a new DLL and drop it into their windows directory. On the other hand, every single game I have played on a console works every time.

Personally, I don't have time for that any more. If I have a few hours to kill over a weekend, I want to spend it playing a game, not spending time installing it, Googling some strange error message, and visiting the game's forums.

[leeuw.livejournal.com]

Exactly. I got tired long ago of spending so much time keeping my computer working correctly/upgraded with all the games I wanted to play. Sure, PCs have the ability to give you a better experience, but I do not want to invest that time.

Consoles offer a nice compromise, and with them now supporting HD and looking pretty great on a 60 inch HDTV...the gap is narrowing.

As for the PS3 debacle...I have been waiting to purchase my "next gen" console to see the PS3. After seeing all the negatives, including the fact HD-DVD seems to be winning the war, the decision seemed clear. I just got a 360 yesterday. ;) As for the Wii, yeah..it has it's niche but it is not what I am looking for.

Happy Gaming.

[wolventerror.livejournal.com]

You know the HD drive is ONLY for movies right now right?

I am waiting for the 360 to drop in price - that and I do not have the TV to support HD gaming yet. I am perfectly happy with the Wii.

[leeuw.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know. And actually, I thought it a good idea that it was seperate from the game machine itself. This is another concern I had with the PS3. The drive was for both movies and for games and those who use it heavily as a DVD player reduced the life of the drive. My old Xbox was only used for games as I had other DVD players. With the PS3...I would have used it for movies as well (BR only).

With this, I have the option of a cheap (relative) HD-DVD player.

As for the Wii...Cool :) I have no problem with the Wii...just not into the whole arm waving. Just call me an old style gamer ;) I had a Gamecube, and was perfectly happy with it.

[zeeth_kyrah]

I guess you haven't played Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly. That thing was full of errors, thanks to the publisher chopping off the deadline and then shipping an unapproved beta which had load time issues and a broken renderer.

[giza.livejournal.com]

No, I did not.

From a software standpoint though, the "beauty" of that is that all of the errors should be consistent and easily reproducible across all consoles it is played on.

Could you imagine if this happened with a PC game, and the tech support hell people would be in? Kinda like Valve/Steam, actually...

[skippyfox.livejournal.com]

So you'd rather send your game back in for a replacement then, as opposed to downloading a patch?

[skippyfox.livejournal.com]

Are you saying your Mac isn't as perfect as you claim? Because most PC games are released for the Mac as well.

Even on Windows games are incredibly stable these days. I have not had a single issue running a video game on my computer in five years, and the problem I had in 2001 was due to a bug in the game itself, and was fixed after calling tech support for the game.

Meanwhile, consoles have been buggy as shit as far back in history as they go. Did you not get tired of blowing the dust off your cartridges all the damn time once they aged a week or so? And I can't tell you how frustrating my Dreamcast was...I couldn't even tell if the games I owned for it were all scratched or if my system simply wasn't reading them. Did you see the video blog of that guy who received two defective Wiis IN A ROW? And PS3 is an ugly bitch when it comes to compatibility with older games, or worse: Its compatibility with half the TVs currently on the market. And, oh YEAH! Half the PS3s manufactured had to GO BACK because too many of the REDUNDANT chips (but not redundant enough) were crapping out! Perhaps the PC is a much nicer alternative to consoles than the advertisements tell you.

You can't tell me that console hardware is godly and perfect--it's just as susceptible to flaws, defects and damage as a PC is. PS3s and Wii's have already been reported to malfunction straight out of the box. And new firmware and upgrades WILL come along for your precious playstation 3 and you'll have to deal with them. So really, all of the trouble that comes with PC gaming comes with consoles just as well.

[giza.livejournal.com]

Nothing convinces me my argument is inferior like yelling and swearing.

Oh wait, it just puts me on the defensive instead. Do you really expect me to continue the discussion now?

[skippyfox.livejournal.com]

I didn't swear once. And I was just lazy and used caps instead of italics. I guess that's just how I debate.

[giza.livejournal.com]

> I didn't swear once.

What? Fine, I'll quote:

"Sony has a long standing record of attempting (and, more importantly, failing) to trap developers and consumers into using their own patented (and often shitty) products."

And

"Meanwhile, consoles have been buggy as shit as far back in history as they go."

Anyway...

> I guess that's just how I debate.

No, that is called "shouting the other party down". Allow me to demonstrate.

Debate: "I disagree with your assertion about consoles not being buggy, because of the numerous documented problems with the Wii and other systems."
Shouting: "WTF is wrong with you?! Consoles are absolute shit!"

Now, if you are on the receiving end, which one of those lines would you prefer to have directed at you?

[jonesybunny.livejournal.com]

Oooh, try playing True Crime Streets of L.A. on the PS2. That game is the only game that manages to crash any PS2 on a regular basis.

[giza.livejournal.com]

An open-sourced Microwave would be pretty neat.

[silver-huskey.livejournal.com]

Why are people complaining about this, but not about the facts that PC games always look and play better before they're dumped onto a console format, and that when a console game is ported to PC, the PC user has much more freedom to adjust graphics settings at his will?

Maybe. But you forget, console and PC games are like apples and oranges a lot of the time. Most people play PC and console games for different reasons. I for one, grew up with console gaming and I can't stand PC games, despite having a PC. I know a lot of friends who love console games and don't know jack about how to even use a computer. To keep it short, console and PC games aren't something that easily cross over. No one probably complains about the fact that PC games look better than on the console, because most people don't buy both. They either get one or the other.

I've tried PC gaming and hated the fact that my system needed various upgrades, and that I had to use a mouse and PC. I prefer to use my PC for everything else but gaming (with the except of old console emulators and a USB controller pad). I just don't like it. I'd gladly take a lesser looking game on a console than a high end complex one on a PC. I suppose it's a matter of taste.

[simbab.livejournal.com]

Sony is good for Trinitron TVs. There's a 32" one in the basement, and it's very good. I stay the hell away from everything else Sony. **shudders at the thought of trying to run Linux on a Vaio**

[nikvulper.livejournal.com]

The point would have been better made without all of the curse words in their video, swearing to get your point across doesn't bolster the argument. At least the video proof is well done :)

[kellic.livejournal.com]

Don't care....The PS3 is dead to me. Even if they clean up their crap I'm NOT spending half a grand on a game system even if they do have BR support. At the end of the day its still a gaming console...an expensive gaming console.

[turbinerocks.livejournal.com]

I'll buy a PS3 the way we bought a PS2. A couple years down the road, when the price hits $200, when developers have learned the architecture and when decent games are out for the thing. I'm still playing PC and console games that are 7 years old, I'm in no hurry, and I'm sure as hell not going to drop $600 on a machine with no games and piles of bugs. Fanatical early adopters with more money than sense can subsidize the bleeding edge of technology, I'll reap their sacrifice when economics of scale kick in. ;-)

[giza.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's what made me buy my PS2 in 2003 or so. That, and I needed a DVD player. :-)

I suspect I might buy the PS3 some years down the road just for Metal Gear Solid 4.

[silver-huskey.livejournal.com]

Heh, it looks like we got a PS2 in the same year. I only got one because my PS1 broke and I REALLY wanted to finish Chrono Cross. ;)

Not a fan of Xbox 360, either

[nightfurson.livejournal.com]

Eh... with the brief moment I had with Xbox 360, I was unhappy with it too. Last time I was at a Halo 2 party, someone brought an Xbox, and an Xbox 360. We played on the 360 for a bit, noticing that while the graphics were -sharper-, the game itself was laggy as hell.

We even managed to make the game freeze, twice... both times the game locked up in multiplayer, when the system tried to render an explosion on two screens at once. We got fed up, and moved back to the normal Xbox :3... the Xbox 360's owner was pissed.

[silver-huskey.livejournal.com]

Well, if I had any interest in getting a PS3 early (I didn't), that would have killed it. All of the launch titles as of now don't interest me. So I would have pretty much used it to play PS1 and PS2 games, and ugh that resolution looks terrible. I'm surprised at how badly Sony seems to be treating those who got the console first. This adds up to yet another reason why I'm willing to wait a few *years* on the PS3.

[wildw0lf.livejournal.com]

Wow, I had no idea...What a difference. Well, at $600 retail, it's going to be a LONG time before a PS3 ever sees the inside of my house.

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[oletajunik.livejournal.com]

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