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So apparently, the owner of Furry Art Pile up and decided to close the site last night.

No warning. No notice. Just gone. *poof*

I feel badly for the artists who lost any artwork or commission info from the site.

Guess I'll be visiting ArtSpots a lot more in the future.

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Date: 2008-08-28 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com

Subscribed to it. Thanks.

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Date: 2008-08-28 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleepingwolf.livejournal.com
From my comparatively distant perspective, I can't help but think of Dell Corporation Reaches Goal, Shuts Down (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27850).

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Date: 2008-08-28 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakko.livejournal.com
At least there's some semblance of a migration strategy if this is to be believed, but I would've given adequate notice. It's not like lightning struck the server hosting it and burned it to the ground, after all...

I've thought about doing things on the scale of the FAP and FA in the past, but it always had "no good deed goes unpunished" written all over it.

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Date: 2008-08-28 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittrel.livejournal.com
Yeah, I thought that a bit strange... I was there earlier and no notice of anything going to be down, let alone down PERMANENTLY. Not a very professional way to go. Sure has folks talking though. :P I guess they retroactively added a utility to retrieve your art... but it's still not a very polite way to do it.

I'm on ArtSpots too and I like 'em. Doesn't bother me too much to only have 2 galleries to update instead of 3!

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Date: 2008-08-28 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bikerwalla.livejournal.com
So I visited [livejournal.com profile] noodlesandbeef's post saying "so long and thanks for all the donations" and giggled the loudest over [livejournal.com profile] kuniopt's pronouncement that an Encyclopedia Dramatica article would not be required for this drama bomb, because Ecky Ecky Pkang was talking about opening the source and talking about giving refunds. I'm sure that makes up for all the lulz.

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Date: 2008-08-28 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
FWIW, it's been less than 24 hours since the site shut down. Time will tell if he makes good any of that or not.

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Date: 2008-08-28 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiprudder.livejournal.com
Honestly I haven't found any site yet that I find as easy to use as FA. If something offers me a compelling reason to go, I'll go, but I like FA's format, management, and the people using it.

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Date: 2008-08-28 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com

You might want to give Artspots (http://www.artspots.com/) or Yiffit (http://www.yiffit.com/) a try.

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Date: 2008-08-28 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiprudder.livejournal.com
That's my point though, if all my needs are met why try those? I guess I'm just curious as to what about FA usage sent folks to other sites?

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Date: 2008-08-28 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
> That's my point though, if all my needs are met why try those?

Oh, gee, I dunno... maybe to, you know... try something different?

> I guess I'm just curious as to what about FA usage sent folks to other
> sites?

I think the month of downtime might have had something to do with it.

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Date: 2008-08-28 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenmouse.livejournal.com
So, riddle me this...

If you were running colo'd free art site of that magnitude that experienced hardware failure the month before Anthrocon, how long would it take you to get it back up, and why?

Honestly, I feel this has little to do with the website and MUCH to do with its administrators. I'm not trying to convince you to change your opinion, but I don't think you're being very forthcoming with the truth behind your preference.

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Date: 2008-08-28 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triggur.livejournal.com
Okay first, as has been patiently explained by a multitude of people who do large scale sites for a living, FA is not anything reasonably referred to as "that magnitude." It's a tiny hole-in-the wall site with dead simple content. Furries seem to like to think it's the Google of the fandom, but seriously. It's not.

Second, also explained at length by said professionals, they've made a staggering series of extremely poor choices in their hardware choices, software design, and hosting decisions. It's been like a clown-car of mistakes made with other peoples' money. This, plus a basic knowledge of the personality disorders displayed by its owner, add up to "disgruntled."

So to answer your question, "If you were running colo'd free art site of that magnitude that experienced hardware failure the month before Anthrocon, how long would it take you to get it back up"...

...the answer is probably somewhere in the range of "a few hours or maybe a day or two."

And it wouldn't cost $16,000.

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Date: 2008-08-28 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenmouse.livejournal.com
Good, I wasn't putting that as a proof of point, I wanted a dead simple answer from an actual professional, as I know the sites Giza deals with. If the delay was a comedy of errors, minus the comedy, then I would agree that a month downtime was a sign of woeful mismanagement. I had my suspicions, and would love to develop a better solution, but current profession and finances prohibit that.

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Date: 2008-08-28 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triggur.livejournal.com
There's nothing unprofessional about the sites Giza deals with.

In fact if anybody understands cost effective high volume load management, it's that industry.

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Date: 2008-08-28 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenmouse.livejournal.com
Exactly, which was why I asked.

Really, all I want is a good place to put my music. It hasn't been an issue since I having been producing much lately, but there's very few free sites for that. Though the size limitation of FA may soon become an issue.

I spent most of today thinking about whether a professional furry archive is feasible yet. I think we might see it in the next few years, if someone can provide a feature set that would provide enough incentive for furs to subscribe.

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Date: 2008-08-28 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenmouse.livejournal.com
Oh wait, you think I mean that you're a professional and Giza's not. No, no, no, no. I asked the question in Giza's journal because he IS a professional, and I've been seeing a lot of mixed info on forums.furaffinity.net

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Date: 2008-08-29 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thraxarious.livejournal.com
For $2k-$4k I could build a kickass webserver... Supermicro All the way...

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Date: 2008-08-28 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triggur.livejournal.com
How are your needs met when they're up and down like a yo-yo?

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Date: 2008-08-28 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinkyturtle.livejournal.com
What's got me shaking my head is all the people calling this "drama". This guy pulled a dick move guaranteed to piss a lot of people off, and a lot of people got pissed off, gee what a surprise. That's not drama, that's just one guy being a dick.

"You keep using that word. I do no' thin' it means what you thin' it means."

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Date: 2008-08-28 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mapdark.livejournal.com
Geez , happy to know I'm not the only one on my friends list to think like that.

I agree that you can get tired of something and that you CAn close it down..

However , NOT that way!

It's just so rude!

And that post on the main page is a slap to the face to anyone who's been using the site for a while.

"I'm tired of this website , no fun anymore , closing bye bye , better projects to take care off!"

Someone hasn't heard of courtesy I think -_-;;

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Date: 2008-08-29 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skippyfox.livejournal.com
I wonder why he chose to close it instead of pass on the ownership to someone else? I'm sure there are people interested in running a website like FAP

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Date: 2008-08-29 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joanmichele.livejournal.com
Well fuck...that was sudden. D:

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Date: 2008-09-10 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildw0lf.livejournal.com
Nice site! Never heard of art spots before!

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