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Are you a business that gave money to the No on Prop 8 campaign? Better get ready to receive a threatening letter from the Yes on 8 group. (Link #2) The threatening letter can be read here.

A threatening letter has sparked a new controversy here in San Diego surrounding the gay marriage debate. Donors who gave money to the No on Prop 8 campaign say they received blackmail letters demanding money, and the Yes on 8 campaign now says the letters were sent by their employees.

The letter from Yes on 8 came by certified mail, demanding at least $10,000. Jim Abbot knows exactly why he's being targeted - his business gave $10,000 to a group called Equality California, which supports No on Prop 9.

Jim says nearly 25 percent of his staff is gay.

"We wanted to support their freedom to marry," he said.

The letter says if Jim doesn't give an equal donation to Yes on 8, the name of his company will be published. It reads in part, "It is only fair for Proposition 8 supporters to know which companies and organizations oppose traditional marriage.

"I feel like it's blackmail, and as you can imagine, real estate business has been tough lately and to have someone come at you like this… it's very distressing," he said.

Yes on 8 confirms they sent around 30 companies the letter. A spokeswoman told News 8 they are just trying to hold their ground in a passionate race. She added that No on 8 supporters picketed the Manchester Grand Hyatt after Doug Manchester donated $125,000 thousand. The publicity caused at least one very large group to cancel its event at the hotel.


Just wow. I can't believe the gall of these Yes on 8 people. "You gave money to our opponent so you should give it to us too!" Yeah, that'll make us all supportive of your cause. Good luck trying to force your definition of marriage down the rest of our throats. You'll need it.

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Date: 2008-10-24 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mapdark.livejournal.com
Wouldn't THAT alone , if it's found to be true , be enough to derail the whole thing?

I mean , there is a big difference between "NO" people anonymously picketing a business for their support of the "Yes" , and singling out companies and people like the "Yes" people want to do!

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Date: 2008-10-24 02:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rebelsheart
Pssst.

When forcing a bgcolor, force a text color.

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Date: 2008-10-24 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murakozi.livejournal.com
By their logic, shouldn't Dough Manchester as well as any others who donated money to 'Yes on 8' give equal donations to 'No on 8'?

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Date: 2008-10-24 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smack-jackal.livejournal.com
I was about to post something about this petty, small and extremely juvenile crap. Since I wake up to NPR every morning this was actually the first thing that I heard this morning. Great way to start the day. :/

He feels that this is blackmail?!

Date: 2008-10-24 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bikerwalla.livejournal.com
No... that IS blackmail.

I hope the federal government (because support comes from Outside California) and the USPS get involved in this.

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Date: 2008-10-24 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitt3ns.livejournal.com
That's a pretty dirty move there.

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Date: 2008-10-24 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shockwave77598.livejournal.com
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Who all donated money to YES, and what companies should I boycott?

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Date: 2008-10-24 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikvulper.livejournal.com
That sucks, but that's obvious. So instead the copy editor in me says... "$125,000 thousand"? They should have been able to win on that donation alone ;)

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Date: 2008-10-24 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonesolteradyne.livejournal.com
Sounds like your typical neighborhood mafia to me. Personally, I'd love to know who donated to the "Yes on 8" campaign, just so I can make sure never to support them.

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Date: 2008-10-24 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakko.livejournal.com
It's obvious the Yes on 8 cause lacks sufficient support, so proper discourse and letting their cause stand on its merits is right out. Fearmongering fixes everything!

Oh... related: this just in.
Edited Date: 2008-10-24 07:11 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-10-24 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] streakthetiger.livejournal.com
That's disgusting x.x

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Date: 2008-10-24 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyld-b-wolfy.livejournal.com
Last I checked blackmail was illegal.

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Date: 2008-10-24 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com

I just did some Googling and you're right! This does seem to meet the legal definition of blackmail. Oops.

Good to see you're on LJ, BTW.

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Date: 2008-10-24 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyld-b-wolfy.livejournal.com
I just can't imagine what they hoped to accomplish by doing that. It's doubtful any of those companies would be ashamed of supporting gay marriage. And people tend to hate seeing this sort of stupidity and mean-spiritedness. I think this will backfire on them and cause even *more* people to vote against Issue 8 (or I hope it will, anyway).

Unless Issue 8 has some sort of retrograde clause in it making all legal same-sex marriages before it null and void, someone is going to take the case up and argue it's unfair and possibly unconstitutional to ban some marriages and not all or to suddenly make two people unmarried who previously were... talk about a mess!

Thanks :) I generally don't write much, but I like seeing other journals.

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Date: 2008-10-24 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyld-b-wolfy.livejournal.com
I also just remembered about miscegenation laws: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation

Our country has a history of barring various peoples from marrying...
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Date: 2008-10-25 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thrashbear.livejournal.com
"I thought California was for equal marriage already?
I dont think Florida will be =["

That's because Florida is full of old people with old ideas, and both are about to go bye-bye soon.

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Date: 2008-10-25 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gen-talon.livejournal.com
Does Talon have to go slap a few people around for being stupid?
Our 2 props are not making that huge of a mess over here.

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Date: 2008-10-31 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bushrat.livejournal.com
These 'Yes on 8' people remind me of the Somali Pirates...

"Gives us your m0n3ys or we will hurts j00!!!" etc.

Blackmail? Demanding money? Right, it's time to blow these tards right out of the water then!

Let me know which companies voted 'YES' so I can be sure and boycott them for the rest of my life. I don't give a damn WHO they are, they won't get another dime from me. EVER.

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Date: 2008-11-05 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildw0lf.livejournal.com
Wow, I can't believe people would go to those lengths...

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