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http://ihaveaplan.be/furryTut/furryTut/

A hilarious guide on how to be a member of the furry fandom.

CAUTION: NSFW.

[Edit: Since people have asked, I posted it because it struck me as being tongue in cheek.]

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Date: 2006-08-13 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lionman.livejournal.com
Two things:

1.) That's funny!

2.) Wow...too real, somewhat frightening.

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Date: 2006-08-13 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rigelkitty.livejournal.com
Barely-disguised derision.
From: [identity profile] xydexx.livejournal.com
1) Is this that stupid Intro To Furry Fandom thing those dumbasses over on Crush Yiff Destroy were talking about putting together recently?

2) Even if it isn't, why the hell are you giving tripe like this publicity?
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
1) This is news to me. I don't read CYD and I don't recall seeing their name mentioned on the page that I linked to.

2) It struck me as being rather tongue in cheek. If I thought that the writer was being malicious, I wouldn't have linked to it.

Correction

Date: 2006-08-13 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xydexx.livejournal.com
It's actually mostly the work of three members of drama_awesome, which is, y'know, just as bad.

Re: Correction

Date: 2006-08-13 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
That surprises me greatly since the people in drama_awesome seem to be all about poking fun at specific individuals. These pages were much more generic, they didn't seem to targetting specific people.

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From: [identity profile] greenreaper.livejournal.com
I liked it. It had real observations about the furry fandom that fit my own in many areas. They make many points that are spot on, and others that are not universally valid but still relevant to a significant proportion of the subject they were talking about at the time.

No, they don't reflect all furries. No, they're not "fair". However, they do show the sort of knowledge that can only come from people who are actually involved with the fandom. As such, I would give it far more credit than the standard Something Awful fare. If we can't take the humorous criticism our own fandom jabs at us, then yes, we really are being too sensitive.
From: [identity profile] xydexx.livejournal.com
I dunno, I think the whole LOL FURRIES thing is just hackneyed and lame. It wasn't really funny the first time I heard it, so after the 100th time it's even less so. It's all been said and done and done to death. This is less an issue of me being "too" sensitive and more an issue of uncreative wannabe comedians needing to find some new material.

I'm not the only one who feels that way. As [livejournal.com profile] dylanbunny said elsejournal: "Everyone can laugh at themself, and when they want to laugh at themself, they go to sites like that. But when you shove that stuff in their face and go 'HAY LOOK WAHT UR LIEK LOL', it's annoying."
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From: [identity profile] greenreaper.livejournal.com
I disagree. Some of the stuff that they said appeared to be a new use in criticism, and it is definitely the best example of such that I've seen as a single work (I'm open to the existence of better works that I have not seen).

They are finding new material. What you want them to find is a new topic. That may happen, but it's going to take time, and frankly I don't expect it to unless furry fandom goes mainstream in the sense that anime is mainstream.

Nobody's shoving it in your face. It was on your friends page, which means that one of your friends found it interesting enough to post on his journal. Perhaps he has friends who want to laugh at themselves. If you don't want to do that right now, don't go look. Admittedly a fuller link description might have helped, but you could tell the tone from the first few paragraphs. :-)
From: [identity profile] rigelkitty.livejournal.com
But this isn't even constructive criticism. It's mocking derision with the intent to ridicule. It comes from drama_awesome, the community whose goal is to deride and ridicule.

Just because they know about the fandom's darker side doesn't grant it any value when that darker side is trumpeted as a biased tour guide masquerading as a bad joke. Making furries look bad, knowledgeably or ignorantly, has not suddenly become socially acceptable.

Don't fall into the trap of being so needful for the community to receive attention that judgement is distorted. Don't defend the people who mock us, it only encourages them.

On Leveling The Playing Field

Date: 2006-08-13 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xydexx.livejournal.com
Y'know, experience has shown us time and again that the second the trolls get their own tactics thrown back in their face they totally can't handle it. It's all LOL INTERNET until it's their ox being gored.

Maybe ultimately that's what needs to happen to finally kill off the LOL FURRIES meme. Subject the dumbasses who perpetuate it to a taste of their own medicine. Mercilessly mock and ridicule and embarrass them until they're as sick of it as we've been.

And then when they complain about it, we can tell them to "learn to laugh at themselves" or "grow a thicker skin" or "just ignore it and it'll go away" or whatever other countless pieces of bad advice they've given us. Besides, if they can't take a little "humorous criticism," then obviously they're being too sensitive, right? Fair's fair. -:)

Yeah, I know. That wouldn't be nice.

But neither are they.

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Awesome!

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Have Fun

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Date: 2006-08-13 03:53 am (UTC)
zeeth_kyrah: A glowing white and blue anthropomorphic horse stands before a pink and blue sky. (Mordred napping)
From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
Pass/Fail?
FAIL.

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Date: 2008-03-31 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrfopsers.livejournal.com
You're talking about yourself, rite?

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Date: 2006-08-13 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirfox.livejournal.com
I'm amused for two reasons.

1: it's pretty true.
2: with minor changes, it'd work for any other fantasy-ish fandom.

Most folks, while striving for originality and uniqueness, usually end up immitating somebody else. Just about everything else flows from that. May as well be amused at it.

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Date: 2006-08-13 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rexxwolfe.livejournal.com
You knwo one has to learnto take self critsim and look at ones self and see holy fuck some of those ARE ME. Though I debunk the urban legend part. I exist. And youknwo what those tables I frickin see descriptions like that all the time. I have fallen intot the furry traps that are mentioned. I find it is unfair and It is generalised but we do it we do it to the " Non furs" And ive read and witnessed and been involved in countless scenarios where things mentioned on that rant are more then accurate. Sometimes it can be fustrating being in any fandom. Very fustrating. I see this asa Poke saying look in on yourself and see how it looks fromt he other side of the fence I mean Shaft glisting sex.. My Character description thats sort of now very generalised for the fandom.. Yeah I admit some of those sterotypes i fall under but others i completely shatter if anything this look at furries made me both smirk grumble and look at myself. And Ya know the Psedointellectual thing is frightening. And he has flame wars and drama pretty spot on. Goes to show in any crowd we as much as we say tend to be ourselves conform to whats acceptable and what will get you liked by others. Thanks Giza.

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Date: 2006-08-13 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happywulf.livejournal.com
I thought it was awsome. =3 I liked the pokeing at the magical, weapons endowed, anime hair, avenge parents on deathbead thing that we seem to be getting a lot of these days with the youngster furs. ^.^

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Date: 2006-08-14 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinkyturtle.livejournal.com
All I ask is to call it unfunny without being accused of having no sense of humor. (Not accusing anyone who's commented here of that, of course, just speaking from experience.)

Oh, a second thing I ask is that nobody trot out that old "You need to learn to laugh at yourself" chestnut, on pain of BRICK in the FACE, because that thing no more represents me than Shawn Keller's ugly, ugly drawings of 400-pound redneck slobs with "DURRRR" expressions on their faces.
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Date: 2006-08-15 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] railfoxen.livejournal.com
Can I have an amen?

Quite amusing

Date: 2006-08-15 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joanmichele.livejournal.com
That article, while making blanket statements, is frighteningly accurate. This is quite a fine piece of humour, I would approve of it.

TL; DR

Date: 2006-08-27 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-eleven.livejournal.com
After reading the first page: Image

I didn't bother to go through the rest of it.

$0.02

Date: 2006-09-10 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] circuit-four.livejournal.com
As far as I know, the article's the work of [personal profile] mcity and didn't really represent a group "attack" on anybody's part, though it is now the lead article on Crushyiffdestroy. Mcity used to be a semi-regular commentor on my ex-girlfriend's journal, until she got pissed off at the way the Drama_Awesome people were treating a transgender friend of ours and she banned them all wholesale.

If I had to characterize his opinion about the fandom, especially kinky people in it, I'd say... "conflicted." :) Not malicious, I think, just embittered. I didn't care for the guy personally, far too grumpy and sour for my liking, but the article struck me more an expression of his own misgivings than a serious attempt to cause outrage. It's a damn shame that he's having such a rotten time. The writing didn't strike me as devastatingly witty, though I'd say there's a grain of truth to it.

But I'm content to do absolutely nothing about it (okay, nothing worth more than $0.02) and let the guy have his gripes.

xydexx is a fucking cunt

Date: 2008-03-31 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrfopsers.livejournal.com
I remember reading through this last year when I found it and it's still as hilarious as it was the first time xD

Y'know, most of what's written in this tutorial I actually found true and well founded. You can't deny that the furdom revolves around sexual deviance especially when you see that 30% of the stuff on FurAffinity is of erotic nature. It's just fun to see the furtards whine and scream fursecution over a silly piece of satire such as this one.

Heck, I say all the furries who see their furriness as a lifestyle shouldn't be allowed on the internet in the first place.

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Date: 2008-10-31 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xydexx.livejournal.com
Nobody's whining, nobody's screaming fursecution, and you're a moron. Thanks for playing.

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